Former Google programmer James Damore, who was fired for having the audacity to point out the biological differences between men and women in an epic 11-page intra-company memo that was leaked to the press, told Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on Wednesday that Google had held ultra top-secret meetings called “Diversity Summits” that pushed the diversity envelope so far that the policies pushed were racist and potentially illegal as well.

When Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, a professor at the University of Toronto, asked why he wrote his now-famous memo which exposed Google’s politically correct extremism, James Damore told his shocking story, which included details of the secret summits and the fact that the memo was written over a month ago and Google was only interested in it after it went viral within the company and was subsequently leaked to the press.

“About a month and a half ago, I went to one of our diversity summits — all of it unrecorded and super-secret. And they told me a lot of things that I thought were just not right,” Damore revealed.

“What do you mean, ‘unrecorded and super-secret?'” a surprised Dr. Peterson asked.

“They were telling us about a lot of these potentially illegal practices that they’ve been doing to try to increase diversity,” Damore replied.

“What kind of practices?” Peterson asked.

“Well, basically treating people differently based on what their race or gender are,” he answered.

“Oh, you mean racism,” Peterson jumped in.

“Yeah, basically,” Damore agreed.

Damore explained that most meetings at Google are recorded so that anyone at Google can come watch — “trying to be really open about everything except this [the diversity meetings]. They don’t want any paper trail for any of these things.”

“Why?” Peterson bluntly probed.

“Because I think it’s illegal,” the former Googler answered. “I mean, as some of the internal polls showed, there were a large percent of people that agreed with me on the document. And so if everyone got to see this stuff, then you know they would really bring up some criticism.”

James Damore told Peterson that it was after one of these “Diversity Summits” that inspired him to write the 11-page Google memo that has sparked such controversy among progressives who reject common biology. Damore’s memo simply recognized that there may be biological or scientific reasons why women have not been attracted to the high tech field to the exact same degree that men are, which may explain why Google and other tech giants tend to be highly represented by male employees.

Damore explained that he previously loved Google, describing himself as a “fanboy” before the controversy ensued.

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Watch the entire interview below: